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Science and/or mysticism

Three major religious holidays this year happened at the same time. Those who think that the reconciliation of religion and science would be a way for humanity to successfully face climate change, the fair distribution of resources and the adaptation of society to technological changes are not rare.

In a rare occurrence, which occurs only every thirty-three years, the three major holidays of the monotheistic religions – Judaism, Christianity and Islam – happened at the same time this year. Last Friday and this Friday, Christians of the western and eastern churches commemorate the crucifixion of Jesus, and on Sunday they celebrate Easter, marking their faith in his resurrection. Also, on the previous Friday, the Jews celebrated the eve of Passover, commemorating the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and the end of their slavery. That same weekend, Muslims around the world marked another Friday, their weekly holiday, as part of the month of Ramadan, which began on April 2 and ends on May 3.
This rare merging of holidays is possible because unlike the Christian calendar, which is determined by the movement of the sun, the Islamic calendar is aligned with the moon and the lunar year. Twelve months in the solar year last 365, in the lunar year, on the other hand, only 354 days. Thus, the Islamic holiday cycle follows the Western calendar for three decades.

Easter is celebrated on the first Sunday after the first full moon after the vernal equinox. It is held with church services and traditional meals. The holiday is also an occasion for celebration in the commercial sector through the sale of Easter fashion products, Easter baskets and chocolate bunnies. Many Christians also practice Great Lent, which begins 40 days before Easter. The idea is that the renunciation for Lent reflects the sacrifice of Jesus of Nazareth during his 40 days in the desert. Great Lent begins with Ash Wednesday, continues with the observance of Good Friday, the day of Jesus’ crucifixion, and Easter Sunday, the day of his alleged resurrection.

Ramadan is celebrated during the ninth month of the Islamic calendar, fasting from dawn to sunset. It is a period in which Muslims seek forgiveness for sins committed, pray for spiritual guidance, and use the month to refocus on their faith through self-restraint and good deeds. Passover is an eight-day festival of the Jews, whose observance includes abstaining from leavened foods, observing days of rest, and retelling the stories of the exodus from Egypt. The Seder, the traditional Passover meal, is held on the first night of Passover.
This year, Vaisakhi, the great holiday of another monotheistic religion – Sikhism, was held on the same days. On April 13, the Sikhs celebrated with this holiday the creation of the Khalsa Panth, an order of initiated Sikhs dedicated to the service of the One Creator and humanity, founded in 1699. Before that year, this date was celebrated as a harvest festival in the Punjab region, and many observe it not only as a religious, but also as a cultural holiday.

Tao of Psysics

Besides such an impressive conjunction of important religious holidays can serve as a big metaphor and an opportunity for noble and more than necessary calls for reason, brotherhood and understanding among all people and stopping conflicts and wars, imperial ones and religious ones, at the same time it can also be an occasion to shed more light on another great divide within contemporary society – that between religion and science.

After a long, centuries-old tradition of the sharpest conflicts in which, as a rule, science and scientists suffered, many believe that the time has come for these two, in many aspects, opposing views of reality to find points of contact or at least ways for peaceful coexistence. Those who think that such a historical reconciliation, no matter how much the term is overused, is the only way for humanity to successfully face the biggest challenges such as climate change, the fair distribution of resources and the adaptation of society to frenetic technological changes.
One of the first steps in the 20th century in this direction was made by the American physicist of Austrian origin Frittjof Capra. During his travels in Asia, he noticed great similarities in the way the religious and philosophical schools of the East described reality, and the language used by modern physics for the same purpose. In the following years, he translated these insights into a book that has preserved its iconic status to this day. Capra published his Tao of Physics: Exploring the Parallels between Modern Physics and Eastern Mysticism in 1975 in New York. The book became an instant hit, especially in artistic and intellectual circles, and over time has seen numerous reprints, and has been translated into 23 languages ​​around the world.

In the atmosphere of awakening the interest of the Western public in the traditional philosophical, religious and artistic concepts of the East, The Tao of Physics, somewhat surprisingly, also met with a lot of positive reactions from the scientific community. Nevertheless, there were completely expected negative reactions from the ranks of scientists, who had absolutely no right to put their methodical scientific work on the same level with the discoveries made in the flash of religious revelation.

Thus Nobel Laureate Leon M. Lederman, a physicist and former director of Fermilab, criticized The Tao of Physics and several similar books that appeared at the same time, such as The God Particle, by Garry Zukava: “Although they begin with reasonable descriptions of quantum physics [the authors of these books] later they construct elaborate elaborations completely devoid of understanding how carefully theory and experiment are woven together and how much blood sweat and tears go into each painful advance.”
Capra later summarized his motivations for writing the book: “Science does not need mysticism, and mysticism does not need science either.” But people need both.”

During his research, he recognized two basic principles in modern physics, which were also constant motifs of Eastern philosophies – the fundamental interconnectedness and interdependence of all phenomena and the essential dynamic nature of reality. Capra talked about the ideas from the book in 1972 with the famous physicist Werner Heisenberg in one of his interviews:

“I visited him several times in Munich and showed him the entire manuscript, chapter by chapter. He was very interested and open. He told me that he was aware of the parallels I wrote about from before. While working on quantum theory, he traveled to India and was the guest of Rabindranath Tagore with whom he discussed Indian philosophy. Heisenberg told me that these conversations helped me a lot when working on my own theory, convincing him that all these new ideas in quantum physics were not so incredible. He discovered that, in essence, there was an entire culture based on very similar ideas. And Niels Bohr also had similar experiences during his trip to China.”

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A unique meeting of minds at the border of science and spirituality: Einstein and Tagore

“But at the same time, anyone who is serious about science remains convinced that some kind of spirit manifests itself in the laws of the universe and that it is far superior to man.” In this way, doing science leads to religious motivations of a special kind, which are certainly quite different from the religiosity of someone more naive.”

Albert Einstein

Collision and meeting of truth and beauty

In his house in the suburbs of Berlin, the great scientist Albert Einstein hosted Rabindranath Tagore, the Indian philosopher and poet, one July day in 1930. These two colossuses of the human spiritual struggle started one of the most intellectually stimulating discussions of the 20th century and beyond, mainly exploring the age-old friction between religious and scientific thought, but also the point of their meeting. The growing secularity of the Western world and the millennial tradition of India at one table, in a rare state of osmosis and synthesis.

This clip of that historic conversation and masterful meditation on the concepts of consciousness, beauty and truth is just a part of the published book about this meeting of giants, “Science and the Indian Tradition: When Einstein Met Tagore”.


EINSTEIN: Do you believe in the divine as something isolated from the world?

TAGORE: It is not isolated. The infinite personality of Man understands the Universe. There can be nothing that cannot be subsumed under the human personality, and this is proof that the Truth of the Universe is also the human Truth.
I took scientific facts to explain it – matter is made up of protons and electrons, with gaps between them; but matter seems solid. Similarly, humanity consists of individuals who, however, have their own interconnections of human relationships that give the human world a living unity. The entire universe is connected to us in a similar way, it is the human universe. I pursued this thought through art, literature and the religious consciousness of man.


EINSTEIN: There are two different conceptions of the nature of the universe: 1. The world as a unity dependent on humanity. 2. The world as a reality independent of the human factor.
TAGORE: When our universe is in harmony with Man, the eternal, we know it as Truth, we feel it as beauty.
EINSTEIN: It is a purely human conception of the Universe.
TAGORE: There can be no other conception. This world is the world of men – the scientific view of it is the view of the scientific man. There is some standard of reason and enjoyment which bestows upon him the Truth, the standard of the Eternal Man whose experiences are permeated through our experiences.
EINSTEIN: It is the realization of the human entity.
TAGORE: Yes, one eternal entity. We must realize it through our emotions and activities. We have realized the Supreme Man who has no individual limitations through our own limitations. Science deals with what is not limited to individuals; it is an impersonal human world Truth. Religion understands these truths and connects them to our deeper needs; our individual awareness of Truth takes on universal significance. Religion applies values ​​to the Truth, and we know this Truth well through our harmony with it.
EINSTEIN: Truth, then, or Beauty is not independent of Man?
TAGORE: No.
EINSTEIN: If there were no more human beings, Apollo Belvedere would no longer be beautiful.
TAGORE: No.
EINSTEIN: I agree with this conception in the case of Beauty, but not in the case of Truth.
TAGORE: Why not? Truth is realized through man.
EINSTEIN: I cannot prove that my conception is correct, but it is my religion.
TAGORE: Beauty is in the ideal of perfect harmony existing in the Universal Being; The truth is in the perfect understanding of the Universal Mind. We as individuals approach it through our own mistakes and misconceptions, through our accumulated experiences, through our enlightened consciousness – how else could we know the Truth?
EINSTEIN: I cannot scientifically prove that Truth must be conceived as a Truth that is validly independent of humanity; but I firmly believe in it. I believe, for example, that the Pythagorean theorem in geometry says something that is approximately true, independent of the existence of man. In any case, if there is a reality independent of man, there is also a Truth that is relative to this reality; and in the same way the negation of the first causes the negation of the existence of the second.
TAGORE: Truth, which is one with the Universal Being, must be essentially human – otherwise, everything that we individuals perceive as true could never be called truth – at least not the Truth that is called scientific and can only be reached through logical processes, or in other words, the organ of thought that is human. According to Indian philosophy, there is Brahman, the absolute Truth, which cannot be created by the isolation of the individual mind or described in words, but can be understood by the complete merging of the individual with its infinity. But such a Truth cannot belong to science. The nature of the Truth we are discussing is appearance – that is, what appears to the human mind as true and therefore human, may be called maya or illusion.

EINSTEIN: So, according to your conception, which may be purely Hindu, it is not an illusion of an individual, but of humanity as a whole.
TAGORE: Species also belongs to unity, to humanity. Therefore, the whole human mind understands the Truth; the Indian or European mind arrives at the same understanding.
EINSTEIN: The word “species” in the German language is used for all human beings, in fact, even monkeys and frogs could belong to it.
TAGORE: In science we move through the discipline of eliminating the personal limitations of our individual minds and thus arrive at that understanding of the Truth which is in the mind of Universal Man.
EINSTEIN: The problem begins with the question of whether Truth is independent of our consciousness.
TAGORE: What we call truth lies in the rational harmony between the subjective and objective aspects of reality, both of which belong to the super-personal man.
EINSTEIN: Even in our daily lives we are forced to ascribe a reality independent of man to the objects we use. We do this in order to connect the experiences of our senses in a reasonable and comprehensible way. For example, if no one is in this house, and yet this table remains where it is.
TAGORE: Yes, it remains outside the individual mind, but not the universal mind. What I perceive can be perceived by the same kind of consciousness that I possess.
EINSTEIN: If no one were in the house, the table would still exist – but, from your point of view, it is illegitimate – because we cannot explain what it means for the table to be where it is, independently of us.
Our natural point of view, regarding the existence of truth beyond humanity cannot be explained or proven, but it is a belief that no one can lack – not even primitive beings. We attribute superhuman objectivity to Truth; it is necessary for our existence, that truth which is independent of our existence and our experience and our mind – although we cannot say what it means.
TAGORE: Science has proven that a table, as a solid object, is an apparent object and that therefore what the human mind perceives as a table would not exist without that mind. At the same time, it must be recognized that the fact that ultimate physical reality is nothing but a multitude of separate rotating centers of electrical force also belongs to the human mind.
In understanding the Truth, there is an eternal conflict between the universal human mind and the same mind threatened in the individual. The eternal process of reconciliation is carried out in our science, philosophy, ethics. In any case, if there were a Truth absolutely unrelated to humanity, then it is completely non-existent for us.
It is not difficult to imagine a mind for which sequences of things occur not in space but only in time, like sequences of notes in music. for such a mind, the conception of reality is akin to musical reality in which Pythagorean geometry can have no meaning. There is a reality of paper that is infinitely different from the reality of literature. To a kind of mind such as the mind of a paper-eating butterfly, literature is completely non-existent, but to the human mind literature has a greater value of Truth than paper itself. Similarly, if there were a Truth that had no sensory or rational relation to the human mind, it would forever remain nothing as long as we remain human beings.
EINSTEIN: Then I am more religious than you!
TAGORE: My religion is the reconciliation of the super-personal man, the universal human spirit, in my individual being.

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